A confrontation with the villain Mr. Hyde led to Wiccan's discovery that Patriot had been abusing Mutant Growth Hormone. In response, Billy, now enraged, summoned a devastating blast of lightning that quickly took down the entire Wrecking Crew. Not to mention she proves that she can inhibit America's powers by dosing her with a counter serum. He joined Ultron in attacking the Avengers. The true believer in Christ entered into God's kingdom, the unbeliever remained forever the slave of the Demiurge.[28]. Transforms himself into the Scarlet Witch, Conjures up clothes in order to look like a prison guard, Gives Kid Loki a teenage body, making Loki even stronger, Undoes the Enchantress' transformation spell. This type of spellcasting has its flaws obviously. He called a large meeting, inviting everyone who'd ever held Avengers membership to join him in the Tower. This sudden outburst of powers worries the Avengers, who think that it may lead to Wiccan having a mental breakdown similar to that of the Scarlet Witch. The Runaways rebuked their offer, but joined together when Karolina Dean, the Skrull Xavin, Hulkling and Wiccan were captured by agents of a secret alien-observation base called The Cube. Plotinus, "Against the Gnostics". like very very gay Unable to allow another to suffer Kessler's abuse in his place, he confronted Kessler. Thus the real Hulkling (disguised as the Super-Skrull) was able to stay on Earth. Eventually he is to become the Demiurge, a being that will change the very fundamentals of magic in the past and the future. He apparently could not save it from breaking apart without some ladies croaking so how powerful does that make him? The former was dkaios, severely just, the latter agaths, or loving-kind; the former was the "god of this world",[41] the God of the Old Testament, the latter the true God of the New Testament. A partially powered Demiurge (aka the Semiurge) holds off Mother's attacks, Fully turns into the Demiurge through the power of love. The Wiccan and Hulkling of Earth-616 didn't approve of this, and later Wiccan and Hulkling from Earth-721 was sent home. Not even remotely correct. He started out in the Young Avengers with the code name Asgardian, using only lightning powers. . All those statements are never verified when they were not outright contradicted or retconned. Answer: Wiccan is a powerful magic user with a unique tie to Avengers history. In the Apocryphon of John c.AD 120180, the demiurge arrogantly declares that he has made the world by himself: Now the archon ["ruler"] who is weak has three names. A woman jogger passed by and asked him if he was okay because she saw the boy was bleeding. Creates a solid energy construct to allow other people to travel on a platform, He can give other people the power of flight. Billy and the Young Avengers are the first team to respond to invading Skrulls in New York. He also has power over all realities and all possible worlds. I don't know why people saying he is multiversel, etc. Wiccan was created by Allan Heinberg and Jim Cheung. Probably Raven if she is anything like what people pretend Demiurge Wiccan is. John Kessler was Billy's main nemesis and after receiving a beating that left him sore and bloody, Billy went to his favorite place to calm down -The Avengers Mansion. 2 yr. ago. You need to read the story again. Both Jarvis and the Hulk tried to sway them from taking such measures, but they refused, and unwittingly unleashed Kluh - the Hulk's Hulk. and apparently if he can't hear himself chanting the spell, it won't cast. After they teleported, there was also a huge lightning bolt that staggered the Avengers. 13). "[47], Catharism apparently inherited their idea of Satan as the creator of the evil world from Gnosticism. Of the entire team of YA Lite, only Enchantress and Coat of Arms (who had been tested by her old acquaintance, Tommy, aka Speed) were asked to join the Young Avengers. He even held the comic panels in his hands and manipulated what was going to happen in then for gods sakes Im pretty sure he takes this. Around the time the two boys are physically 10, they begin to display superpowers, with Tommy having inherited his uncle Pietro's super speed and Billy displaying magical powers similar to the ones used by his mother. During their search, Wiccan and Speed openly referred to the Scarlet Witch as their mother and to one another as brothers. Soon after, Billy married his longtime boyfriend, Hulking, however, their new life is briefly interrupted when Hulking takes his rightful place as the king of a Kree and Skrull alliance. [13] It is possible to interrupt the cast, and apparently if he can't hear himself chanting the spell, it won't cast. Thus, a triad is formed of the intelligible nous, the intellective nous, and the psyche in order to reconcile further the various Hellenistic philosophical schools of Aristotle's actus and potentia (actuality and potentiality) of the unmoved mover and Plato's Demiurge. 45). This process takes no more than a few hours and we'll The team agrees to look for Speed and they use Miss America's interdimensional powers to find him. Robert Reynolds, aka Sentry, descended into the room, prepared to tear the YA apart. The Neoplatonic philosopher Plotinus addressed within his works Gnosticism's conception of the Demiurge, which he saw as un-Hellenic and blasphemous to the Demiurge or creator of Plato. Demiurge Wiccan has more impressive feats. Billy took to her so well that, later, at a Young Avengers meeting, he vouched for Sylvie. Wiccan becomes the target of all enemy attacks. During a trap laid by Iron Man and the pro-registration heroes, in which they planned to immediately take out the resistance's teleporters - Cloak & Wiccan - Wiccan was captured and sent to the N-Zone prison for his involvement with the underground Avengers. He recognizes that the Scarlet Witch may not be ready to be found and feels that he is happy enough with his present life. The villain was specifically stated to be after the Demiurge abilities and to finally have them at full power when he destroyed one universe and seemingly himself along with it. @j2111: It's a twitter post by Kieron Gillen look it up yourself. The ending panel for issue 3 is, Chavez "sister" revealing more people like her and America created by replicating America's mom's experiments. Plotinus criticizes his opponents for "all the novelties through which they seek to establish a philosophy of their own" which, he declares, "have been picked up outside of the truth";[50] they attempt to conceal rather than admit their indebtedness to ancient philosophy, which they have corrupted by their extraneous and misguided embellishments. The New Avengers wasn't suggesting it was really bad if that is the case. However the utopian parallel was still created by the demiurge. The first and highest aspect of God is described by Plato as the One ( , 'To Hen'), the source, or the Monad. Billy of the Young Avengers, son of the Scarlet Witch and brother to Speed and that's pretty cool, also I'm gay. In this one-shot about the final adventure of the Avengers, Billy Maximoff chose to be a villain, calling himself the Grim Reaper. Back at the Avengers Mansion, Billy was eager to begin Sylvie's training, but she seemed more interested in getting closer to Billy, whom she appeared to be attracted to, causing Billy a degree of discomfort. Wiccan's primary team is the Young Avengers, so any given volume of Young Avengers will feature him heavily. writes, "There is a direct link between ancient Gnosticism and Catharism. Acts as a safeguard while the Scarlet Witch and Doom try to access the Earth's Life Force, which is what gave HoM Wanda her powers. During her marriage to the Vision, the Scarlet Witch used her reality-altering powers to create twin boys Willaim and . Wiccan hoped that revealing their existence to Wanda would help her regain her sanity and return to the Avengers. Doctor Strange has also claimed that Wiccan has the potential to be the next Sorcerer Supreme. 2023 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. The box set would prove to be one of the last Marvel Legends products produced by ToyBiz before the Marvel license transferred to Hasbro. Something being made from a gods breath is standard prose about creation. For Billy to activate his reality-bending magic, He must focus on a desire or idea and vocalize, repeating quickly what he wants in order for a spell to be cast. Unable to control them, he electrocuted Kessler, nearly killing him. Billy and his boyfriend Teddy were among those gathered at the meeting. Wiccan continued as a member of the Young Avengers (now including Tommy as "Speed") until the events of Civil War and the Superhero Registration Act forced the team to go underground as part of Captain America's anti-registration team of superheroes. You just said yourself the universe he destroyed was fixed by time travel, so not beyond time or reality or time travel would not affect it. Ridiculous arrogance of the Gnostics who refuse to acknowledge the hierarchy of created gods and spirits and say that they alone are sons of God and superior to the heavens (ch. But it is only the name that can be said to be specially Valentinian; the personage intended by it corresponds more or less closely with the Yaldabaoth of the Ophites, the great Archon of Basilides, the Elohim of Justinus, etc. 1618).". Sylvie was later kicked out. "Billy Kaplan was a normal high school boy until he discovered his power of Electrokinesis and became one of the heroes he admired. Am not jumping the gun, am presenting the evidence as is. Youre trying to use something that yet to be finished or explained. This is the one in Future State right? Psalm 82 begins, "God stands in the assembly of El [LXX: assembly of gods], in the midst of the gods he renders judgment",[16] indicating a plurality of gods, although it does not indicate that these gods were co-actors in creation. Wiccan quite literally became the cosmos from within Mother's dimension, able to flip through time and reality as if they were comic book panels. The prophecies are ascribed not to the chief but to the other world-making angels. The Young Avengers were lured into a trap set by the Young Masters, who were waiting with Osborn's Dark Avengers to take down the YA. In this future, he is the Sorcerer Supreme. In Young Avengers vol. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. This article is about philosophical concept of a Universal Fashioner. He was angry here so there were no spell chants. In the "Battle of the Atom" X-Men crossover event, Billy Kaplan is one of the future X-Men, alongside a Phoenix-powered Quentin Quire, Jubilee (who goes by the codename "Wolverine"), Kymera, Shogo Lee, and Sir Robert (Bobby Drake). But Yaldabaoth, the Demiurge, with the material world, will be cast into the lower depths. One night, Billy was angry at his father for no good reason, and yelled at him, telling him never to read to him again. It appears that Plotinus attempted to clarify how the philosophers of the academy had not arrived at the same conclusions (such as dystheism or misotheism for the creator God as an answer to the problem of evil) as the targets of his criticism. 1. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. And viewing his dimension in comic book format in order to banish mother. In the report of the system of Basilides,[23] we are told that our world was made by the angels who occupy the lowest heaven; but special mention is made of their chief, who is said to have been the God of the Jews, to have led that people out of the land of Egypt, and to have given them their law. T. I want to know about that, Who would win between this wiccan and Mr Mxyzptlk cause raven is more powerful than him and Perpetua. Of note here is that while Plotinus' student Porphyry names Christianity specifically in Porphyry's own works, and Plotinus is to have been a known associate of the Christian Origen, none of Plotinus' works mention Christ or Christianitywhereas Plotinus specifically addresses his target in the Enneads as the Gnostics. We dont know if shes telling the truth, so as of now its HAS NOT BEEN recton cause the story hasnt even given a chance to prove if shes telling the truth in the first place. In school, he met a tremendous amount of hate and fear because he was different. Wiccan ( William " Billy " Kaplan-Altman [1]) is a fictional character appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. Loki convinces Wiccan to temporarily give him some of his powers, and Wiccan agrees, seeing no other choice. When Wiccan and Hulkling wake up the next morning, they discover to their horror that Hulkling's mother is not what she appears to be, but is actually an inter-dimensional parasite, who has taken control of Wiccan's parents. Wiccan discovered that he and the newest recruit, a youth with super speed by the name of Tommy Shepard, were identical in appearance. 1012). Fact is Demiurge Wiccan is actually barely universal, as we have seen him when controlled by a villain need like twenty years to destroy a single universe clearly not affecting anything across time or the like in the process. "For, in sum, a part of their doctrine comes from Plato; all the novelties through which they seek to establish a philosophy of their own have been picked up outside of the truth." A second? William "Billy" Kaplan, also known as Wiccan, is a human mutant and magician. After discovering that Hulkling had been going out as a superhero without his knowledge, he and Wiccan fight over the choice to become superheroes again. Theodoret,[25] who here copies Irenaeus, turns this into the plural number "powers", and so Epiphanius of Salamis[26] represents Cerinthus as agreeing with Carpocrates in the doctrine that the world was made by angels. Wiccan and Hulkling are thrown into a prison outside their dimension, but are rescued by Loki. Not to mention we never get a reason why a chump like Loki would know this when all kinds of greater beings and entities appear to be unaware. The Young Avengers later encountered both Kate Bishop and the daughter of the late Ant Man (Scott Lang), Cassie Lang. Unkindness wins. The law of necessary procession and the eternity of the universe (ch.3). He has to say the action he wants to happen in order for the spell to be cast. Iron Lad explained he needed help protecting himself from his future self, called Kang. Flabbergasted, he then admitted that she was his favorite Avenger. It was here that Billy revealed to Teddy that Norse myths have always had a special meaning for him because his father used to read them to him at night. While being attacked, Billy's powers manifested for the first time. [28], Opinions on the devil, and his relationship to the Demiurge, varied. 07:17 Serge Udalin - Witch. The two work out their problems, and their love is able to save the universe. At the close of the series, Billy and Tommy are seemingly cease to exist after Wanda undoes her spell and frees Westview from her control, but the post-credits scene has Wanda hearing the boys calling to her, implying they somehow survived. Wiccan appears in 645 issues. They are rescued by Noh-Varr and Kate Bishop, and the team flees to Central Park in order to avoid bringing too many people into the spell. Wiccan is destined to become the cosmic entity Demiurge though, so I'd say he has "more potentional" but is still very much in-training. However, the Super-Skrull tracked them down, revealing Hulkling's mother to be a Skrull (who was charged to raise him on Earth by Hulkling's birth mother, the deceased Skrull Empress Anelle). Billy's issues escalated as he grew older and entered high school where his differences became the source of endless torment and violence. Not even remotely. There the boys encountered Master Pandemonium who further strengthened their belief that they are the reincarnated souls of the Scarlet Witch's twin sons. Wiccan and the other imprisoned anti-registration heroes were later freed by Hulkling who disguised himself as Hank Pym to infiltrate the N-Zone prison. In the Nag Hammadi text On the Origin of the World, the three sons of Yaldabaoth are listed as Yao, Eloai, and Astaphaios.[31]. The Demiurge belongs to the second kind, as he was the offspring of a union of Achamoth with matter. Wiccan and Hulkling from this reality, also known as Earth A, came to Earth-616 as tourists, and for some reason they registered in the Initiative. All you do is scream the same thing over and over contradicting yourself. ). Wiccan. Wiccan (real name William "Billy" Kaplan) is a comic book character, a member of the Young Avengers, a team of teenage superheroes in the Marvel Universe. When the Scarlet Witch used her powers to recreate the world after the House of M event, she inadvertently recreated both William and Thomas as well. When Norman Osborn invaded Asgard with his army of superpowered beings and H.A.M.M.E.R. They insanely overrated wiccan. Knocks out multiple people simultaneously, Manipulates water to to knock away a Skrull. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. In others, including the teaching of Valentinus, the demiurge is simply ignorant or misguided. 1). Iron Lad had used a system he found in the remains of the Vision which helped locate alternative members for the Avengers for the next generation. Billy used his magical abilities to send Sentry away, taking Osborn's most valuable team member off the board. Wiccan and the others were eventually rescued by their teammates and continued avoiding registration. The true Platonic other-worldliness, which love and venerates the material universe in all its goodness and beauty as the most perfect possible image of the intelligible, contracted at length with the false, Gnostic, other-worldliness which hates and despises the material universe and its beauties (chs. His appearance is patterned on that of two prominent Marvel superheroes, Thor and Scarlet Witch, both of whom are members of the Avengers. Thus Sophia's power becomes enclosed within the material forms of humanity, themselves entrapped within the material universe: the goal of Gnostic movements was typically the awakening of this spark, which permitted a return by the subject to the superior, non-material realities which were its primal source. The Monad emanated the demiurge or Nous (consciousness) from its "indeterminate" vitality due to the monad being so abundant that it overflowed back onto itself, causing self-reflection. Wiccan can rewrite the rules of magic across all realities. When Hulkling is hurt during the battle, Billy uses his powers to put the Sons into comas. 'wisdom'), the Demiurge's mother and partial aspect of the divine Pleroma or "Fullness," desired to create something apart from the divine totality, without the receipt of divine assent. Christos Evangeliou has contended[52] that Plotinus' opponents might be better described as simply "Christian Gnostics", arguing that several of Plotinus' criticisms are as applicable to orthodox Christian doctrine as well. Respect William "Billy" Kaplan, aka Wiccan. Dude The Unkindness negs I can break this down if you want, and I talked too both authors . He should curb here. In the Archontic, Sethian, and Ophite systems, which have many affinities with the doctrine of Valentinus, the making of the world is ascribed to a company of seven archons, whose names are given, but still more prominent is their chief, "Yaldabaoth" (also known as "Yaltabaoth" or "Ialdabaoth"). The impossible son of a witch and a synthezoid, Billy Kaplan was always going to be powerful, but Young Avengers - from writer Kieron Gillen and mainstay artist Jamie Mckelvie - revealed that Wiccan is actually the Demiurge, a force of life and magic who, when he comes of age, will redefine the rules of magic and become functionally omnipotent. The performance might range from a nudge to a certain existential state or outcome, to modified every reality in existence. With that Osborn took his leave, and left the team alone. In the show, Wanda gives birth to Billy and his twin brother Tommy after moving to Westview to start a new life with Vision. @stahlflamme: How's he barely universal? During this time, the Super-Skrull stated his belief that Billy and Tommy's similarities in appearance and powers indicated that they were the twin sons of the Scarlet Witch and the Vision. During their time traveling through dimensions, Hulkling becomes worried that Wiccan's powers might be responsible for their relationship, a theory proposed by Loki. Outside, Magneto arrives, saying that he wants Billy help to locate his daughter. How is it likely that shes not lying when the demiurge is still a thing everywhere else? Someone on the team (which shall be referred to from hereon out as the Young Masters) contacted Norman Osborn, aka Iron Patriot - America's 'Top Cop' and the leader of H.A.M.M.E.R. He is married to Hulkling. pantheism). Later, the Neoplatonist Iamblichus changed the role of the "One", effectively altering the role of the Demiurge as second cause or dyad, which was one of the reasons that Iamblichus and his teacher Porphyry came into conflict. However instead of recreating them as her children, they ended up as the children of other parents. Sam Wilson and his newly Inverted Avengers shrunk all the gathered heroes down using Pym particles extracted from the Wasp (presumably against her will) and trapped them all in one of Hank Pym's microscopic ant farms, thereby taking care of the "liability". At full maturity, a Demiurge is stronger than any Nephalem, including one sired by an Arch-angel/demon and can use their unique powers to kill them with ease except not when one is using its true potential. Sylvie revealed to them that she was not actually from Asgard, but that she woke up one morning with powers. (Kick Duck Dancing) 16:52 GG - Petrivka 19:49 Daniel Christian ft. Kolly Dee - Slava Ukraine 23:19 Andrew StetS feat. Then within this intellectual triad Iamblichus assigns the third rank to the Demiurge, identifying it with the perfect or Divine nous with the intellectual triad being promoted to a hebdomad (pure intellect). Plotinus specifically points to the Gnostic doctrine of Sophia and her emission of the Demiurge. The bad guy possessing Wiccan needed around TWENTY YEARS to destroy ONE universe at which point he was stated to be at full power and it did not go through time or affect another universe, as the storyline had people go back in time to prevent it and it worked. Billy was impressed with the magical capabilities of Sylvie Lushton, aka Enchantress. @j2111: Hi may I ask where you got these 4th and 5th scans from? In Middle Platonist and Numenius's Neo-Pythagorean cosmogenies, the Demiurge is second God as the nous or thought of intelligibles and sensibles[4] (Middle Platonism and Neo-Pythagoreanism overlapped: both originating in the early 1st century BC and extending through to the end of the 2nd century AD or even into the 3rd century). And how many more times to I have to tell you the visual depiction of interacting with comic panels does not matter? The group travels to New York to discuss what they should do, but they are found by Ms. Altman, and defeated. Magic/Reality-Warping: Billy's main power is the superhuman ability to manipulate reality at will, enabling him to tap into the universe's store of magical energies, which he inherited from his spiritual mother the Scarlet Witch. The Super-Skrull killed Hulkling's foster mother and captured Hulkling to his ship to take him back to the Skrull Empire. A bit desperate too. Level 4: While Wiccan has Mystical Destiny, he will transform into the Demiurge if you have at least 7 AP in all colors. The user is able to perform/cast a rare variety of magic spells and feats that manipulates reality itself to various degrees. Magical Barrier - 9 AP Wiccan conjures up a magical barrier to protect his allies. The Valentinian Heracleon[46] interpreted the devil as the principle of evil, that of hyle (matter). But Jerusalem represents the creation or the Creator whom the Jews worship. He briefly achieves this form, and is able to view the past, present and future, as well as freely alter the universe. Plotinus sought to reconcile Aristotle's energeia with Plato's Demiurge,[5] which, as Demiurge and mind (nous), is a critical component in the ontological construct of human consciousness used to explain and clarify substance theory within Platonic realism (also called idealism). Teddy assisted Billy by posing as him while he and Speed went on a search for the Scarlet Witch to learn more about their past. But what he (demiurge) showed or said is less than what raven did in the future state (destroyed: the new genesis, speed force wall, hell). The Young Avengers agreed that in order for reality to stabilize, Iron Lad must return to his own time. Some readers believed the twins Malachi and Tobias to have been the kidnapped children of the Scarlet Witch and Vision. As the full-powered Demiurge, he casually removes Mother from existence, who is an extremely powerful matter manipulator, and removes everyone from the pocket dimension into the main universe. Its existence was never retconned. However, at this point in time, Wiccan doesn't have sufficient control over his powers to fully utilize the Demiurge's powers. False and melodramatic Gnostic teaching about the cosmic spheres and their influence (ch. A lot of comic books inspired WandaVision, including House Of M and the 1985 The Vision And The Scarlet Witch limited series (by writer Steve Englehart and artist Richard Howell.) He has to say the action he wants to happen in order for the spell to be cast. The Demiurge, having received a portion of power from his mother, sets about a work of creation in unconscious imitation of the superior Pleromatic realm: He frames the seven heavens, as well as all material and animal things, according to forms furnished by his mother; working, however, blindly and ignorant even of the existence of the mother who is the source of all his energy. We've seen it done by far lesser characters. These are either hyliko or pneumatiko. A hundred years? [18] So Irenaeus tells[19] of the system of Simon Magus,[20] of the system of Menander,[21] of the system of Saturninus, in which the number of these angels is reckoned as seven, and[22] of the system of Carpocrates. Although a fashioner, the demiurge is not necessarily the same as the creator figure in the monotheistic sense, because the demiurge itself and the material from which the demiurge fashions the universe are both considered consequences of something else. Are they confirmed it or hinted about it? [7] This is the God above the Demiurge, and manifests through the actions of the Demiurge. Here he uses an offensive spell but he doesn't repeat the spell. After a possessed Scarlet Witch and Doctor Doom cast the Inversion spell again, the "evil" heroes reverted to their heroic selves, and the trapped Avengers were freed. Billy scoffed at her advice and told her maybe if he had powers like her he could. She and Cassie also convinced Billy to change his alias from "Asgardian" to "Wiccan" in acknowledgment of his new powers (and due to "Asgardian" being exploitable by the media in relation to Billy's sexuality and relationship with Hulkling). forces, the heroes of Earth went to its rescue. In order to test if his feelings are genuine, the two agree to temporarily break up. 15). Before the Vision could reveal the identity of the father, a battle erupted between Kree and Skrull forces over the fate of Hulkling. In Young Avengers vol. The "One" is further separated into spheres of intelligence; the first and superior sphere is objects of thought, while the latter sphere is the domain of thought. Doctor Strange has also claimed that Wiccan has the potential to be the next Sorcerer Supreme. (ch. Dark Reign During the events of Dark Reign, Billy and the other. Their search took them to various significant locations to the Scarlet Witch, finally ending at the former home that she shared with the Vision. As the Demiurge, Billy is destined to "rewrite the laws of magic" in the universe, meaning that he is a being of power on a massive scale.

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